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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://greenterrafirma.com/wordpress/dc-wind-turbine-motors-on-ebay-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-1556</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, unfortunately there is no rule regarding geared or not.... you&#039;d need to find the exact make and model and then confirm with the manufacturer. With those wind speeds, you&#039;ll need to make the wind turbine &quot;heavy duty&quot;. Wood blades would be better than PVC, which tend to warp at high speeds - and shatter if they touch the pole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, unfortunately there is no rule regarding geared or not&#8230;. you&#8217;d need to find the exact make and model and then confirm with the manufacturer. With those wind speeds, you&#8217;ll need to make the wind turbine &#8220;heavy duty&#8221;. Wood blades would be better than PVC, which tend to warp at high speeds &#8211; and shatter if they touch the pole.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Morton</title>
		<link>http://greenterrafirma.com/wordpress/dc-wind-turbine-motors-on-ebay-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-1555</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Morton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2011 23:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce.. I don&#039;t really see anything on variable speed PM motors.  If they don&#039;t state that they are geared are they a viable unit?  In my case the RPM/VOLTS =&lt; 15 when doing the math on a 1 1/2 HP unit.   I live on a mountain ridge southwest of Denver and we get winds most of the time and some gusts of even 70 MPH or better.  Strong enough sometimes to move a heavy grill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce.. I don&#8217;t really see anything on variable speed PM motors.  If they don&#8217;t state that they are geared are they a viable unit?  In my case the RPM/VOLTS =&lt; 15 when doing the math on a 1 1/2 HP unit.   I live on a mountain ridge southwest of Denver and we get winds most of the time and some gusts of even 70 MPH or better.  Strong enough sometimes to move a heavy grill.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://greenterrafirma.com/wordpress/dc-wind-turbine-motors-on-ebay-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-1503</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 01:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there is only so much energy in the wind - but it varies greatly with the windspeed (cubed).  The more blades you have the SLOWER the blades turn, but the more torch (power/push) you have.  In the video, he found that with 3 blades he didn&#039;t have enough power/torch to start the blades moving. Once he had 6 blades, the wind blowing on all 6 blades, gave him enough PUSH to turn the motor over. However, at a set wind speed (say 30mph for example) the 6 blades will turn slower (fewer RPM) than a wind turbine with 3 blades.... But again, if your system won&#039;t even start with 3 blades, then you are not producing any power at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there is only so much energy in the wind &#8211; but it varies greatly with the windspeed (cubed).  The more blades you have the SLOWER the blades turn, but the more torch (power/push) you have.  In the video, he found that with 3 blades he didn&#8217;t have enough power/torch to start the blades moving. Once he had 6 blades, the wind blowing on all 6 blades, gave him enough PUSH to turn the motor over. However, at a set wind speed (say 30mph for example) the 6 blades will turn slower (fewer RPM) than a wind turbine with 3 blades&#8230;. But again, if your system won&#8217;t even start with 3 blades, then you are not producing any power at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://greenterrafirma.com/wordpress/dc-wind-turbine-motors-on-ebay-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-1502</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 01:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Permitting - the only thing I can think of would be related to the tower and how high it is... You will never be allowed to connect a homemade wind turbine to the grid, besides, it produces almost no power....

To connect to the grid, you&#039;ll likely need all kinds of expensive equipment - approved inverters, disconnect panels, fusing, extra meters - all of this equipment would cost more money than your DIY wind turbine would ever make in your lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Permitting &#8211; the only thing I can think of would be related to the tower and how high it is&#8230; You will never be allowed to connect a homemade wind turbine to the grid, besides, it produces almost no power&#8230;.</p>
<p>To connect to the grid, you&#8217;ll likely need all kinds of expensive equipment &#8211; approved inverters, disconnect panels, fusing, extra meters &#8211; all of this equipment would cost more money than your DIY wind turbine would ever make in your lifetime.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if there is a certain amount of energy available from the wind hitting the blades, wouldn&#039;t gearing the turbine up just lose some of that energy through friction.  I noticed in that video he used 6 blades, was this to compensate for that loss?  

I want to thank you in general for your help.  I appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if there is a certain amount of energy available from the wind hitting the blades, wouldn&#8217;t gearing the turbine up just lose some of that energy through friction.  I noticed in that video he used 6 blades, was this to compensate for that loss?  </p>
<p>I want to thank you in general for your help.  I appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was considering that and running two windmills if I came across a similar motor.  What kind of permitting issues will I run into if running off grid, and is tying into a grid a reasonable option for small systems like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was considering that and running two windmills if I came across a similar motor.  What kind of permitting issues will I run into if running off grid, and is tying into a grid a reasonable option for small systems like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like you will need some gearing to get a reasonable voltage. At the bottom of this page:

http://greenterrafirma.com/DIY_Wind_Turbine.html

is a 5 minute video showing a very simple gearing setup....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you will need some gearing to get a reasonable voltage. At the bottom of this page:</p>
<p><a href="http://greenterrafirma.com/DIY_Wind_Turbine.html" rel="nofollow">http://greenterrafirma.com/DIY_Wind_Turbine.html</a></p>
<p>is a 5 minute video showing a very simple gearing setup&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok thanks.

I now got a treadmill for free and took the motor out of it.  it is 90/115 Volts, 1 hp.  I can&#039;t read anything else on it but it is perm magnet dc.  I tried to look it up and found some info saying it might be 4000/4500 rpm.  this is a 44.4 rpm/volt ratio.  I have been told to aim for 25, so this seems high.  I am doing this as a sort of project, and I would like to see if I could power a couple spotlights for horseshoes or just porch lights or something.  I was wondering if this would be possible with a motor like this.  I guess my main concern is that I don&#039;t think i could charge a 12 V, and my knowledge of the electronics and battery&#039;s is limited, so I don&#039;t know how options with 12 v batterys differ from my options with 6 v</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok thanks.</p>
<p>I now got a treadmill for free and took the motor out of it.  it is 90/115 Volts, 1 hp.  I can&#8217;t read anything else on it but it is perm magnet dc.  I tried to look it up and found some info saying it might be 4000/4500 rpm.  this is a 44.4 rpm/volt ratio.  I have been told to aim for 25, so this seems high.  I am doing this as a sort of project, and I would like to see if I could power a couple spotlights for horseshoes or just porch lights or something.  I was wondering if this would be possible with a motor like this.  I guess my main concern is that I don&#8217;t think i could charge a 12 V, and my knowledge of the electronics and battery&#8217;s is limited, so I don&#8217;t know how options with 12 v batterys differ from my options with 6 v</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 03:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A dryer motor is no good (induction motor). You need a motor that has permanent magnets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A dryer motor is no good (induction motor). You need a motor that has permanent magnets.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if a dryer motor would work.  They seem to be priced lower, but the hp is generally low as well.

I was thinking 1/3 hp would be low, I was thinking of making a small wind system to charge a 12 V power source.

but I am able to find motors with 1/3 hp, 1650 rpm, 120 - 170 V, 5.3 amps for about 30 USD.

Just wondering what I was missing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if a dryer motor would work.  They seem to be priced lower, but the hp is generally low as well.</p>
<p>I was thinking 1/3 hp would be low, I was thinking of making a small wind system to charge a 12 V power source.</p>
<p>but I am able to find motors with 1/3 hp, 1650 rpm, 120 &#8211; 170 V, 5.3 amps for about 30 USD.</p>
<p>Just wondering what I was missing</p>
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		<title>By: Sprawl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sprawl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, this one is gonna run me about $125 but its worth it in my opinion. i just hope I am successful in being able to build this properly. This is my first venture into a project of this complexity, so it could be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, this one is gonna run me about $125 but its worth it in my opinion. i just hope I am successful in being able to build this properly. This is my first venture into a project of this complexity, so it could be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 14:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds like a good PMG. The motor tends to be the most expensive part these days. If you aren&#039;t careful you can spend as much for a motor as a complete commercial wind turbine would cost...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds like a good PMG. The motor tends to be the most expensive part these days. If you aren&#8217;t careful you can spend as much for a motor as a complete commercial wind turbine would cost&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sprawl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sprawl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 07:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Bruce, I am looking to try and do one of these and after reading through the guides and such I think I finally found a motor that will suit my needs. But before I spent the money on it, I figured I would ask your advice first.
Specs:
.75(3/4) HP
24 VDC
200 RPM
33 amp
shaft is 2&quot; long

Any advice is much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Bruce, I am looking to try and do one of these and after reading through the guides and such I think I finally found a motor that will suit my needs. But before I spent the money on it, I figured I would ask your advice first.<br />
Specs:<br />
.75(3/4) HP<br />
24 VDC<br />
200 RPM<br />
33 amp<br />
shaft is 2&#8243; long</p>
<p>Any advice is much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll need large blades to turn the permanent magnet motor (generator), but you&#039;ll also get more output... just make sure it&#039;s PMG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll need large blades to turn the permanent magnet motor (generator), but you&#8217;ll also get more output&#8230; just make sure it&#8217;s PMG.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 01:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce,
Would a motor with greater than 1 HP be a problem? I have seen a few of appropriate volt to rpm ratios and all are around 2 to 2.5 hp. Is this OK for a DIY wind turbine application?
Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce,<br />
Would a motor with greater than 1 HP be a problem? I have seen a few of appropriate volt to rpm ratios and all are around 2 to 2.5 hp. Is this OK for a DIY wind turbine application?<br />
Alan</p>
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